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  who puts together the bookstudy groups?

  by BlackSwan of Memphis in

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  I can remember the bad reactions people would have by looking at a newly posted book study list and seeing who they were being put with! Talk about love amongst the brothers lol.

  I can also remember when my eldest daughter was born, my mother a single parent (in the 'truth') got shipped away to a non local to her group. She reasonably requested to stay with the local one where I was still at, after all this was her first grandchild too. But no it caused a big stink cause the elder bigwigs couldnt agree on it!! The reality is it would start a tidal wave and one they didnt want to face. In the end one elder told her to go where she wanted and to not feel intimidated by the bully boy tactics.
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  Lurkers:How To Leave The Organization Quietly And Discreetly

  by metatron in

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  an ever growing number of witnesses would like to leave the organization - but how?

  you may have an extended family "in the truth".. all your "friends" ( and that word "friends" deserves to be put in quotes ) may be "in the truth".

  you may not be in any position to make.

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  This seems overly elaborate to me, but I guess there are those who dont want a clean break and wish to fade or drift out.

  In fact a friend of mine has done just that - although he still claims to feel it is the truth, but its the people he had issue with and that feeling a lot of us had of never being good enough. He has moved a few times and therefore congregations so I guess he wasn't close to anyone and was able to miss meetings without much intervention. He had no plan to do this, rather it just happened. Lets face it if your in your mid to late 30's and male and havn't made it to an MS or elder, your not wanted and are likely to be left as a weak one anyhow (lost cause).

  Good luck to all you faders - I have to say personally to read about those who questioned the watchtower and left because of its falsehood, actually making a stand against it have my respect, I just stopped going myself and did most of my research after I had left, I now wish I had left by disasociating myself from the lie.
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  What is 'NIV' ?

  by caryl in

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  new to the site.

  have been away from the jw's since 1985. they have a new bible or what?

  i remember the nwt not niv.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  New International Version
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  Whats the dumbest reason youve been counseled?

  by avishai in

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  my friend was counseled for having a bad attitude because he wore white socks w/ his suit.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  A few that come to mind:

  not wearing a jacket whilst doing roving mikes

  being too happy and not serious enough

  having a classic car

  having fairy lights up (not a xmas time)

  the type of suit i wore

  my hairstyle(s)

  being seen in the hardware store with dirty work clothes on (was midway through a job and needed something)

  growing a beard around the memorial time
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  Circut Assembly 2006 Notes, Part 1

  by drew sagan in

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  much is what we are used to hearing, but i felt it was worth it for everybody to know.

  theme: .

  clothe yourselves with the new personality -col 3:10 .

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Thanks for your notes there, looking forward to the next installment! The point about generalisations was a good one, how they love to 'tar' one and all with the same brush, and yet the reality is so very different

  Arnie
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  im hurt, desperate, confused and considering this religion - advice?

  by very_confused in

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  like the subject title says, i'm hurt, desperate and confused and don't know what to do anymore.

  i'm so desperate to have something to live for that i'm considering converting to something like the jehovah's witnesses.

  i know this might seem a bit extreme but please hear me out.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Hi there,

  I really related to your comments on friendships, I too am not the most social person and like one or maybe even two really close friends. Someone who will 'let you in', therefore I never viewed any of those who were 'just' friendly as real friends as I needed that almost intense closeness with someone. I too feel incredably lonely right now, this is from a background of being an ex witness who is shunned and the only two people I really interact with are my two daughters. As your aware to gain a friendship of the type we enjoy takes a lot of time and investment over years with a similar minded person and it can shatter you to lose them. I think the reality is that people do come and go through our lives though. I have even thought of the enjoyment of that temporary love bombing one could get by going to the witnesses (in my case it would require a period of time of attending whilst still being shunned so the 'loving' elders can assess my repentance!) in any case I cant and wont do that as my conscience wont allow me to head back to the life that was based on lie's or interpretation along with control that made me so fed up in the first place.

  Whilst I cant suggest a particular solution to you (we all have our own ways to cope), you have a least found a place to tell someone (everyone here) how you feel. You have been able to write down your thoughts and once you start to write them you find you have written so much, I often do the same thing when typing about my thoughts. I'm sure its good to do that, it allows you to sort and sift through your feelings by putting it into words doesnt it, so dont let up.

  Take care and enjoy your time here

  Arnie
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  How do you choose......

  by EC in

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  i was born and raised a jw.... right now i know i am still going through the deprogramming, but in the pit of my stomach i so want to believe in something.

  i don't know if it is because i always have had a regular "schedule" with god, but to leave and not believe anymore to me is very lonely.

  where do you start?

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  As your aware your not alone in your feelings. I am a thinker and upon leaving you are left with a void, it can range from how do I live to what movie shall I watch.

  Personally I have felt very immature for my age because my life has been planned out for me until now. I had no ability to think for myself to make choices etc. I think you go through a process of denial - anger - relief, good and bad emotions.

  Right now I wonder if the bible is from god, if there even is a god? I can now see the witlesses are just another interpretation, unfortunately delivered in a cult like manor. My main advise is to let the conditioning fade before you make any serious spiritual choices. I have just recently read the new testament and was amazed how different it was without the watchtower bias, I still dont think it applies beyond the annointed christians of that day or is even deffinately true, but you may find the answers your looking for in it without someone else telling you what it means to them.

  Hang in there and time will heal you

  Arnie
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  Scriptures to make a JW think?

  by AlmostAtheist in

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  i'm looking for scriptures that you believe a doubting jw would read that would cause them to think a bit.

  i have four in mind now: .

  'do not go beyond the things that are written.

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  I have to say that the Revelation 19:1 was an eye opener to me! I've just finished my first complete reading of the new testament without bias from the WTS recently, and yet this verse still alluded me, it may have been the version I used, i'm eager to check it now. In any case I just searched the net for online bible's to see it in a few different versions. It really seems to be tying up the great crowd (multitude) from chapter 7 to them being mentioned in heaven!

  For me I know Jesus mentioned he had other sheep not of this fold and that the two would become one flock, so I wonder if the 144,000 and the great crowd are these two that become one and are they the natural jews and the gentiles? Thats how I understood it when reading it. Opinions please...

  Arnie
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  Service Meeting Week Starting January 2, 2006

  by TheListener in

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  song 5. note: congregations are not to move their service meeting for the week of january 2 to an earlier night unless the circuit overseer is visiting.

  in every congregation, the convention insert should be considered on the service meeting as scheduled.

  if there is a circuit assembly this week, book study overseers should announce the convention location and dates at their regularly scheduled book studies.

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  my story

  by fordulant in

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  hi, i found this discussion forum and felt a need to tell my story, and prehaps talk to people who have an understanding of what it feels like and means to be brought up a jehovahs witness.

  i was practically born into a jehovahs witness family, there was my mother, my sister and myself, my father (a non-believer) left when i was 3. i can remember my mum telling me that i would never get to school as armagedden would be here before then, then i can remember her saying that i would never get to high school as armagedden would be here.... it was a kind of running theme, mum always lived expecting the end of the world the next day.

  mum re-married when i was 6 and her new husband quickly became an elder in the congregation, i also gained 2 step-sisters and a step-brother, who did not live with us but their mother who was not a jw.

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  cyberdyne systems 101

  Thanks for sharing your story, and welcome to the forum

  Arnie